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Non-Boring Theology Talk


Steve Harmon

Could it be that many Christians have misunderstood what Paul said in Romans 7 as though he was speaking about himself in the past, even though the 'tense' is translated in the present? He says, "Oh wretched man that I am". He never alludes to that type of identity anywhere else in his letters. In fact, Paul is the one who states several times that the believer has a new identity that is not associated with "wretchedness", or "filth" when they are "in Christ". This is a perfect case in which we have to interpret scripture with scripture. Paul never refers to believers as wretches or sinners who are saved. Jesus, Paul, John and Peter say that the believer is 'in Christ'..  Here is what the rest of scripture says..

I am a new creation - 2 Cor 5:17
I am reconciled to God - 2 Cor 5:18
I'm a child of God - He is my Father - 1 Jn 3:1,2
I am a saint - Eph 1:1; 1 Cor 1:2; Phil 1:1
I am Christ's friend - Jn 15:15
I am a fellow citizen in God's kingdom - Eph 2:19
I am born of God - 1 Jn 4:7
I have been brought near to Christ - Eph 2:13
I have been adopted by God - Rom 8:15
I have direct access to God - Eph 2:18
I am a citizen of heaven - Phil 3:20
I am an heir of God - Rom 8:17
I've been rescued from Satan's domain - Col 1:13
I am a joint heir with Christ - Rom 8:17; Gal 4:7
I am hidden with Christ in God - Col 3:3
I am blessed with every spiritual blessing - Eph 1:3
I am chosen of God - holy, beloved - Col 3:12
I am a child of promise - Rom 9:8; Gal 3:14
I am a child of light, not darkness - 1 Thess 5:5
I've been given great promises - 2 Pet 1:4
I am a partaker of Christ - Heb 3:14
I'm one of God's living stones - 1 Pet 2:5
I'm a member of a royal priesthood - 1 Pet 2:9
I'm redeemed and forgiven - Eph 1:6-8
I've been justified - made righteous - Rom 5:1
I died w/Christ to the power of sin - Rom 6:1-6
I am free from condemnation - Rom 8:1
I have received the Spirit of God -1 Cor 2:12
I am to be light in the world - Mt 5:14
I have been given the mind of Christ - 1 Cor 2:16
I'm chosen and appointed to bear fruit - Jn 15:16
I have been crucified with Christ - Gal 2:20
I am called to do the works of Christ - Jn 14:12
I have been made alive with Christ - Eph 2:5
I have been given spiritual authority - Lk 10:19
I am God's workmanship - Eph 2:10
Signs should accompany my work - Mk 16:17-20
I have received fullness in Christ - Col 2:10
I am a minister of a new covenant - 2 Cor 3:6
I am a minister of reconciliation - 2 Cor 5:18,19
I am to be an expression of life in Christ - Col 3:4
I am connected to the true vine - Jn 15:1,5
I am a partaker of a heavenly calling - Heb 3:1
I am a temple of God - 1 Cor 3:16; 6:19
I am one spirit with the Lord - 1 Cor 6:17
I am a member of Christ's body - 1 Cor 12:27

How in the world can I, as a believer, be a wretch or a 'sinner saved by grace' and still be all of these at the same time?? The reality is, if I'm a wretch, or a sinner then I need to get saved because wretches and sinners don't go to heaven, but righteous and redeemed people do.. When I used to call myself a 'sinner saved by grace' I later realized that I was doing it in the form of false humility. I believed that I was thinking of myself as being really humble by beating up my identity. I would say foolish stuff like this.. "Oh Jesus, your everything, and I am garbage". I'd feel so proud of myself later for saying it and believed that God was looking down on me with eyes that were proud of His 'wretched' and humble son. But of course, that was my old view on it. The bible says different, which means God says different and I was actually in disobedience to God, by choosing not to believe His word.. “Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.” 1 Cor 5:17

We have theologies that are in complete contradiction and we don’t even realize it. True humility is focusing on God and other more than yourself, not the old mindset of focusing on God and others more than our self and focusing on how awful and how much we’ve fallen short. The thing is that you have to love yourself if you are going to love others.. Jesus commands it. “Love your neighbor as you would yourself”. He’s saying love people more than you would love yourself. We make this all too complicated.. “Amazing Grace how sweet the sound that saved someone like me”, is a better way of saying it.. God gets no pleasure in you are talking down about yourself..


Steve Harmon

A story of when bill johnson had a conversation with another christian regarding healing

Here is a good video by Bill Johnson describing the schizophrenic beliefs of Christianity today that contradicts itself so often. It's so important that we really think about what we are believing and saying, even when it comes from the mouths of our leaders. It doesn't mean they are bad people if they get it wrong, but we have to remember that we can get things wrong.


Steve Harmon

Now I know people will argue with me on this and say the Beatitudes or Him talking to a massive amount of people was a crusade, and that's fine, but the thing is, Jesus never planned those occasions or spent a dime on an event to gather people. He just spoke life and healed people wherever He went and the crowds would gather. His lifestyle was an outreach and that’s exactly what He taught His disciples to do. If believers would simply preach the good news and heal the sick everywhere they went as a lifestyle, there would be no need for events, crusades or outreaches. It would save a lot of money that could be used for people who actually need it.

Crusades and outreaches have a general effect, but nothing close to what it would be if believers did what Jesus told them to do as a lifestyle. Jesus said in Matt 9:37;38, “The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few. Ask the Lord of the harvest, therefore, to send out workers into his harvest field.” Not everyone is called to be an Evangelist, quit their job and go out on the streets every day. But we all come in contact people on a daily basis, whether at our job, get-togethers, shopping at the supermarket, gas station, etc.. I’m not saying that we got to go out there and tell everyone that Jesus died on the cross for their sins and get them to pray the sinner’s prayer. What I’m saying is that there are many ways to minister to people. You can share testimonies in a conversation when people ask how you've been, impart wisdom, or offer to pray for people, which is what I’ve seen be the most effective.

Imagine what this country would look like if all believers ministered to people IN LOVE (not being pushy and arrogant) everywhere they went at the Holy Spirit’s leading, moving in signs and wonders.. There is no question that this country would change. Then we could stop complaining about how bad it’s getting because we’ve finally started doing something about it, like Jesus told His bride to do 2000 years ago..